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ideally, that would be the best thing to do for gov't in these interventions. gov't may have stabilized the credit situation, but its continuing presence will have a disruptive influence on behavior.  institutions may hold off on major decisions because they are all waiting to see how gov't will act, legislate, regulate, boondoggle, etc.

gov't needs to hand off what it's doing back to the private sector - such as purchasing commercial paper - as fast as possible.  gov't needs to get in and get the heck out.

when you have a murky pool of water, by leaving it alone, it will become clear on its own.  the more you agitate the water, the murkier it gets, and right now, gov't intervention is agitating the water and making murky the economic situation.

gov't has to be decisive and clear in its pronouncements and discussions of future plans.  it can't hedge or mumble or shuffle its feet or leave options open in the future.  all that will do is stir up more mud.

a congressmen mentioned an "exit strategy" for gov't intervention - a VERY important idea.  list the plan and current actions being taken 1, 2, 3 as clearly as possible.  there should be a time horizon for when you will expect to terminate these programs, and how you will pass off these responsibilities back to the private sector when they are ready to stand up on their own against the insurgency.

if banks still aren't lending, then so be it.  just be done with it and move on.  you can't wait for them while they wait for you.
 
a large scale plan to stimulate jobs and the economy will probably then be the next step.  it could be that banks and investors are waiting for the details of just such a plan so that they know where to place their bets, uh, i mean investments.  unless bush and obama agree upon a plan, the economy will be in limbo for the next month and a half.  woohoo!  everybody do the limbo!

also, i give up on gm, etc.  congress cannot execute complicated maneuvers.  heck, they can't even go from point a to point b.  so just let the autos fail or just give them $50 billion, no strings attached, and tell them to go away for two years.  if they live, they live.  if they die, they die.  if congress wants to drive us deeper into recession, fine.  let them do it sooner, so that we can get it over with. =P

the worst thing right now is for gov't to linger in areas where it's not supposed to be. be decisive. do it, be done with it, and move on.

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LET'S DO A DUMB ANALOGY! YAY! ^_^

Okay ... this is why liberals AND conservatives (and everybody in general) drive me batty.  Essentially, I believe that all philosophies are fundamentally flawed because they are all decoupled from reality.  Right now, a lot of liberals and conservatives are basing their arguments purely on "rhetorical flourishes" and ideological rants using trained, reflexive thinking, rather than analytical thinking.
Anyhoo ... here's the dumb analogy.
 
Imagine a big, fat, bloated, overweight fellow.  Many have been warning him to go on a diet and get some bloody exercise or else he will suffer a heart attack.  Unfortunately, he doesn't listen and gets bigger and bigger, and then one day, he gets a heart attack.  In the middle of the heart attack, his friends advise him to start doing some push ups and lose some fat.
 
Uh, okay ...
 
I think many of the calls for not bailing out Lehman were based on philosophical arguments, as are the current calls for GM's bankruptcy.  The thinking is being done inside of an ideological box disconnected from reality without wanting to look at the existing circumstances.  Letting Lehman fail may have sounded good in theory, but the real world results were horrendous.  People arguing not to give away any taxpayer money ended up getting stuck with a bill for $700 billion.
 
Helloooo, reality!
 
Although the actual outcome is hard to predict, the circumstances surrounding a GM bankruptcy also seem to point to a similar disaster scenario - cascading failures in the auto industry, a plunge in the stock market and consumer spending, a spike in unemployment, and ultimately, an even larger bailout.
 
Now, I would have no problem with letting GM go bankrupt to reorganize ... IF THE ECONOMY WERE IN HALF-DECENT SHAPE.  The problem is that the economy is a mess right now, and the ripple effects could be catastrophic.
 
Sadly, the fat fellow is clutching at his chest, and people are telling him to do jumping jacks.
 
[Then again, the hardcore conservative might say something along the lines of ... "Let the fatboy croak.  Let them all fail.  Let the houses get foreclosed.  Let the banks rot.  Let Wall Street tumble.  Let the autos get taken over by Japan.  Let the unions suffer.  Let businesses collapse.  No bailouts.  No government intervention.  No stimulus.  No job programs.  Just cut spending and taxes and start all over.  America will be reborn from the ashes stronger, leaner, and more competitive - even if we have to go through a depression to get there."
 
The problem is that there's no way in hell that the US gov't would ever let this happen.  So again, it's just fanciful thinking.  Also, under such a scenario, the US would have to significantly cut back on military expenditures - which could have very nasty consequences in Iraq and Afghanistan and possibly at home.  Ah well, trying to predict the future and all of the ripple effects is a tricky thing.  I don't think it's impossible if you systematically break down everything - but it would take some time and money to do it.  meh.]
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$700 Billion Social Security Privatization Bailout???

Just a wacky idea.
 
Instead of a bailout, what if you gave the $700 billion to banks to set up retirement accounts for American citizens, i.e. privatized some of the Social Security obligation?  Wouldn't that kill two birds with one stone?
 
1) the future obligation of Social Security payments would be removed for Americans that chose to switch over to privatization (however, the gov't would no longer be able to tax them for it ... so there would be some revenue loss)
2) the banks would be able to lend that money since most people would leave the money in there until retirement
3) Americans would feel much better about the bailout since they'd suddenly have big, fat retirement accounts filled with moolah
 
For example, 7 million Americans x $100,000 = $700 billion
 
Meh. I'm not a fiscal policy wonk so dunno if this idea even makes sense, lol.  or how the actual numbers would work out.  I haven't rly thunk it out, like, ya know?  wuh?  and i dun have figures, statistics, or the desire to actually work the computations and whatnot.  Prolly a stupid ideer. anyhoo ...
 
edit: whud are grammar?
edit2: also, you'd have to watch the banks more carefully since you wouldn't want them going bankrupt AGAIN and wiping out all of the minty fresh, private social security accounts. :P
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one last thing ...

i meant to stop posting since i've been procrastinating from life, but i just wanted to get out one last thing ... not that anyone is reading, but anyhoo ...

organizations are interested in self-preservation - including the megabanks. the "crisis" was created by self-serving loans by banks and low interest rates, and the temporary "solution" is loaning / giving reckless banks our money and lowering interest rates? ok ... so how is this not going to create another problem later on down the line ...

also, i don't see why gov't can't work with banks at the local and regional levels to assist them in setting up business loans. gov't is fixated on unwieldy and inefficient top-down approaches. congress prolly gave our money to the wrong people at the wrong level ...

if banks won't lend out money, you go around them - to force competition and make them lend out money or die off. i assume that banks make money by lending money. if they are not lending money, then they must have some alternative revenue source and are not functioning as banks, or they are anticipating more bailout money or ... again, the important principle to remember is that these banks are not altruistic, but selfish, agents that ran amok and broke the established ESS. they cannot be trusted.

currently, the gov't is seeking to re-establish the previous equilibrium state; however, if the megabanks were one of the primary causes of disruption, then you are merely feeding the beast / cancer that created the mess. their existence may be counterproductive, and you may have to apply selection pressure through promotion of sound competitors and alternatives. the threat of extinction may be necessary to rein in their "selfish" behavior.

these are just broad principles based on the casual observation of an outsider. to sum up - 1) do not trust the megabanks, 2) assist their competitors, 3) do not fall into the trap of trying to re-establish "normalcy."  you will just recreate the same conditions prior to the crisis - which were unstable and led to the crisis - thereby perpetuating the crisis, not resolving it.

just general principles to keep in mind ... unfortunately, we seem to be doing precisely the opposite things ... whateva. i'm not an expert at anything anyway.
 
have a nice day! buh-bye!
 
edit: about the libor lending issue ...

is this partly a technical issue where contracts were written out pegged to a benchmark that seemed reasonable at that time, but now has gone haywire?  since so many things seemed to be pegged to Libor before banking became a minefield, is there a way to artificially lower and set Libor to a "reasonable" rate until the dysfunctional banks are washed out of the system? since the rates are based on reported estimates (and there may have been underreporting before), why can't the estimates be "adjusted" (or have phony transactions where bank A lends to bank B and bank B lends back to bank A at some rate agreed upon through global gov't consensus)?

this would be a phony number, of course, but it seems to me that containment is needed to prevent the cancer from spreading outside of banking while the industry is undergoing chemo. the real Libor number could be reported separately under a different acronym - perhaps W.T.F., and that number could be used where it makes sense to use it (i dunno what Eurodollar futures contracts are all about, but i assume they'd be pegged to W.T.F. instead of the "adjusted" Libor).

i dunno everything that is pegged to Libor - just know that some home loans, student loans, and small business loans are pegged to it, but by creating an artificial Libor, you could then decouple old contracts from the current credit mess, i suppose. again, not sure what else is pegged to Libor, so maybe this idea is just stupid. heh. playing around with a benchmark is kinda underhanded, and maybe there is a better method out there. also, dunno if banks are already manipulating it for their own benefit.
 
then again, manipulating Libor may apply undue pressure to lenders, but an overly high Libor will apply pressure to borrowers who could default. pick your poison?  meh. dun like the idea, but if it's a case where a benchmark that is normally useful has gone bonkers, i suppose it's necessary. unless it is supposed to go bonkers and is performing properly. or maybe the number hasn't gone bonkers, but is being overstated.  hmm. i dun know enough about the issue or all of the inside baseball stuff to make a reasonable guess.

there seems to be a lot of hysteria about subjects that are unfamiliar to most of the population, so it is probably the perfect opportunity for unscrupulous behavior and manipulation. not sure which are the most reliable, objective numbers that could be used for assessment of impact.

blah blah blah about stuff i don't know anything about lol. interesting tho.

 
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the Senate with SUBTITLES!!!

bored. added subtitles to the senate passage of bailout bill.

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random

if i were a bank, why would i lend out money and expose myself to risk when i know that gov't is gonna bail me out? and if i think that congress might pass another bailout bill, why shouldn't i wait a little longer to see if there's another one on the way with even better terms?

not an economist, but wouldn't knowing that congress will bailout my bad loans make the credit crisis worse?

doesn't congress leaving the door open to further bailouts make the crisis linger?

wouldn't the proper way to get the banks lending again be to help businesses find alternative sources of credit and financing that compete with banks?

dunno ...

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The awesome awesomeness of the Senate

The Senate has just passed the bailout bill.  Let's listen in to their comments ...

Reid: No, you're awesome!

McConnell: No, you're awesome!

Dodd: No, you da man!

Gregg: No, you da man!

Reid: High five, baby!

McConnell: This is how Congress is supposed to work - destroy the economy and then throw a band-aid on it, so that we can destroy it again.

Gregg: And all at taxpayer expense! Ain't life grand!

Dodd: Yeah, that's right. This is Congress at its finest. Good job guys.  I'm really proud of you.  Anything else we can take credit for?

McConnell: Let's give ourselves a hearty round of applause!

Reid: I can't believe we actually behaved like we were all mature and responsible.

Gregg: Hey, did anyone see this crisis happening?

Dodd: Yeah, but good thing we let it fester and waited till the last moment, so we could all be heroes in saving the economy!

Reid: Brilliant!

Dodd: You're awesome!

McConnell: No, you're awesome!

Gregg: Guys, guys.  Put aside your disagreements and bickering.  Let's face it.  WE'RE ALL AWESOME!

Reid: Damn straight!

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it's not rope a dope when u got two dopes

 -_- lest we forget that our two-idiot system blew up the economy.

read in some of the comments on dick morris' blog about how people think obama is doing the ol' rope-a-dope to john mccain. pfft.
 
what's disappointing is that mccain is the self-professed reformer.  yet, i don't see much leadership out of him.  where is the fire?  where is the anger?  the only anger right now is coming from the people that are ticked off.
 
personally, i'd like to see mccain show a bit of that rumored rage that he keeps hidden inside - mebbe like the incredible hulk. does he turn green and his eyeballs pop out with bulging veins and his pants rip off and he runs around in his underwear through the halls of congress screaming "mccain, smash!"?
 
the pen waving thing just doesn't cut it - unless he's gonna stab people in the head with it yelling, "Reform, you sob!!!"
 
do i think mccain will bring about reform. no. palin's a real outsider, so she actually is a wildcard, but she has no clout or cred without mccain backing her up. obama just wants to settle in a nice, big, comfy chair for the next 8 years, so he's not gonna rock the boat.  biden ... pfft.
 
bleh. gonna vote for the lesser of two whatevas who might actually reform wastingtown. uh, yeah right ... lmao. like that will ever happen.
 
also, the problem is actually the system itself because it selects for people that are just good at getting votes (effective campaigner / support system) - not at being competent, but that's a different issue ....
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the bailout thing ...

i prefer the treasury selling insurance to banks instead of buying up all of the bad loans.  also, all of the talking heads going on about how we lost a trillion dollars on the market ... so if it goes back up 777 pts, then did we just make a trillion?  gimmie a break .... =P
 
excerpt of article in forbes ...
 
link to article: How to Pass the Bailout

House Republicans negotiated a section into the bill that would establish an insurance program for toxic assets. Instead of selling troubled mortgage-backed securities to the Treasury, banks could instead purchase insurance from the Treasury on the assets.

Eric Cantor, R-Va., the chief deputy whip for House Republican, told Forbes.com the insurance program was a "terrific alternative," but the program was not strong enough in the legislation. "That sort of cost us some votes, the fact that there wasn't more teeth in that," said Cantor, who was one of the originators of the insurance scheme.

In the legislation that failed Monday, the secretary of the Treasury was given the option to decide whether to buys the assets or apply the insurance program. Cantor is pushing a more muscular version of the insurance program that would require affected firms to pay insurance premiums on mortgage-backed securities rather than have the Treasury Department buy them directly.

Cantor said that under the failed bill, firms would probably be subject to one option or the other, since the government wants to prevent businesses from gaming the system by unloading their troubled assets on taxpayers, then buying insurance for the good assets, which presumably could eventually be re-sold at a higher rate.

 edit: hmm, then again, the gov't will just end up taking the premiums that they collect and spend it instead of actually setting it aside. -_-
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